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Megnyitotta CHAOSMAPEK - 15.04.2022 16:01
Utoljára szerkesztette: Aithne - 19.04.2022 20:17

FS#40804 - Icecrown Citadel: Lich King: Spells intervals or cast start time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElObotWKZgk ~ Cbong testing part 1
https://youtu.be/118j4ljOC2k ~ Cbong testing part 2

https://youtu.be/er2uUCcbP38?t=30 ~ Tankspot (Cinderhelm) part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNLRDuEMT-Q ~ Tankspot (Cinderhelm) part 1

Those two videos were used to compare every spell that occurred during a fight. Photos show orientational times taken from those videos. All datas will be compared to Cinderhelm videos (08.02.2010)

1. Vile spirits [Phase 3] starts too fast after Lich King finishes casting quake. At this moment it’s after ~7s, should start ~12s

2. Infest [Phase 1, Phase 2] starts too late. Once the fight starts, the first infest should be applied after 5s [is after 33s for both phases]. After the quake is finished (after P1.5) infest should be applied too after 5s.

3. Raging Spirit [Phase 1,5; Phase 2,5] are spawned too fast once Lich King starts casting remorseless winter. They should spawn after ~12s from casting remorseless winter starts for both phases.

4. Soul reaper [Phase 2, Phase 3] is casted too late. Intervals are too long too. Should be casted after 30s from entering the platform after LK finishes casting Quake. Intervals: 30s
5. Defile [Phase 2, Phase 3] is casted too late. Once LK finish casting Quake after P1,5 first defail should be applied after ~30s

6. Valkyr summon [Phase 2] is casted (show up) too late. Once LK finish casting Quake after P1,5, first Valkyr should descend after ~16s

7. There’s also an issue with pets. They receive full damage from remorseless winter (like it’s not considered as AoE spells). On 3.3.5 patch notes can be found that pets were given avoidance.

Lezárta  Aithne
19.04.2022 20:17
A lezárása indoka:  Fixed
Aithne commented on 15.04.2022 19:12

Defile Timer seems to be inherited from P2, and Infest timer might be inherited from P1. I have seen Vile Spirits come out as early as 5 seconds on retail, but he'll wait to cast other abilities if he needs to. He'll def try to cast it before Harvest Soul on heroic.

Aithne commented on 15.04.2022 19:20

Currently, the first Defile in p2 is set to cast at 12 seconds after finishing quake. Val'kyr summons happen 5 sec after finishing quake, and that appears to be correct at least on 25 heroic.

Aithne commented on 15.04.2022 19:31

Remorseless Winter looks to be a generic damage spell with a generic AoE targetmap. Which pet appears to be taking too much damage from it?

Aithne commented on 15.04.2022 19:31

Also keep in mind that p2.5 has more ice spheres than p1.5

CHAOSMAPEK commented on 15.04.2022 19:33

Don't mind spheres, they're fine after all please.

Warlock pet for sure receive more than should. Didn't checked hunter one.

Aerall-Crystalsong commented on 18.04.2022 16:36
Val'kyr summons happen 5 sec after finishing quake, and that appears to be correct at least on 25 heroic.

Here it looks more like 15-16 seconds, video is stitched together from multiple perspectives but it's definitely more than 5 seconds after p1.5.

Aerall-Crystalsong commented on 18.04.2022 17:00

Right now Defile is also being cast too early, 16-17 seconds after entering p2, instead of 33s observed in Tankspot video (5:33-6:03).
I observed same timing in 25hc when checking Valkyr summons in comment above (5:22-5:53).

In p3 (looking at Tankspot video) Defile seemed to have its cooldown reset back to 30 seconds, here you can see it being cast 20 seconds before p2.5, and here he casts it 30 seconds after beginning of p3 (same video, 0:11 timestamp).
Same thing observed on 25normal video (Defile before p2.5, end of Quake, first Defile cast in p3).

Aerall-Crystalsong commented on 19.04.2022 04:35

Also about Vile Spirits, it may be the case on retail right now (my guess is that Blizzard in their infinite wisdom changed something over the years) but I've watched several videos (from retail wrath) and in p3 it was *always* Harvest Soul being cast before Vile Spirits. Even all the guides I've seen say it as a fact.

Aithne commented on 19.04.2022 08:33

Imean... I can do all of these, but it gets confusing when you say "Val'kyr happens too late" when in fact it happens earlier than you want it to happen even.

Aerall-Crystalsong commented on 19.04.2022 09:58

Disregard what Chaosmapek said earlier in the report, he's on vacation and wasn't able to change the report to reflect some of the changes that were done to timers in the meantime.

Only ones that are still broken are the ones from my comments:

  • Valks too early
  • Defile too early (and cooldown in P3)
  • Vile Spirits too early

Also i think pet damage might be fine, players probably just need to call back their pets during Winter.

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